Beolab 8000 Dilemma

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Hi Beoworld I’m in the process of updating and upgrading my home setup. I’ll take the liberty to tell the whole story so bare with me. Until now, my setup consisted of the following components:
  • Beomaster 5500
  • Beovox S45-2
  • Beogram 1202
  • Airplay streamer
The brains of the operations was a Beomaster 5500 where all the sources were connected to. Everything was controlled by a Beo4 remote. I was happy with the sound that Beovox S45-2 produced and how daily operation looked like. Recently, I started renovating my appartment and I had to move everything out. For the time being, I will not have Beogram in the living room since it doesn’t get much play time. A couple of weeks ago, I’ve stumbled upon a pair of Beolab 8000 MK2 for a really really good price. These speakers are something I’ve wanted to have since my teenage years when I first got introduced to Bang & Olufsen. I purchased the Beolab 8000 and took them to a technician to check them and verify that they are in good condition. The technician determined that the speakers (drivers, foam, etc.) are in perfect condition. Thus, I decided to move Beolab 8000 to my living room and give my Beomaster, Beovox and Beogram some rest. But for a transitional phase, I connected my TV to 8000s via TV’s line out. Unfortunately, the Beolabs 8000 subwoofers are not enough to produce any meaningful bass since the living room is acoustically tricky (tall ceilings, large room volume). I generally like the mids and highs of the Beolab 8000s but the bass is nowhere to be found in the room. Honestly, the sound at lower volume that Beovox S45-2 produced was much fuller and complete than the Beolabs 8000s. When changing the source to an Airplay streamer the sound does improve but bass is still an issue. The situation improves when playing Beolabs at louder volume but I’m still not satisfied with the bass. I assume that the larger subwoofer from S45-2 can push more air than the smaller subwoofers in the Beolab 8000s. I am in contact with the local B&O dealer and the plan is that I borrow a Beolab 19 subwoofer for a couple of days and test them at home. I imagine that the Beolab 19 will solve the bass situation that 8000s lack, but the placement of the subwoofer in general can be challenging. Also I’m not entirely keen on having a separate speaker positioned somewhere in the living room since floorspace is limited. I am not looking for an earth shattering bass (my downstairs neighbours would not appreciate), I just want to enjoy a balanced sound where highs, mids and lows are properly produced. Also worth mentioning, I purchased Almando powerlink switch where I’ll connect the Airplay streamer and the TV. This should give me a seamless daily operation. I’m still waiting to receive the cables from Steve but until then I’m in a transitional period. I was wondering if I could get an input from this community whether Beolab 8000s + Beolab 19s would be a good setup. I also have an option to get the Beolab 20 speakers which are a more complete speakers with a large dedicated subwoofer driver. Unfortunately, the Beolabs 20s are second hand and I can’t test them in my living room. Does anyone have any experience in comparing Beolab 8000 + 19 or standalone Beolab 20? Thanks for reading!
The Beolab 19 will have a very slight delay (4.4 msec) from the 8000s -- DSP takes time vs. analog instant sound.  This may not matter if the 8000s have no significant output at those frequencies anyway, to phase-cancel.  But in the (unlikely) event you find the bass uncompelling, place the 19 closer to your main listening position than the 8000s by 1.5 meters.
Interesting, I haven't heard about this delay. But I assume if 8000s are connected to the 19 itself the delay should be gone, right?
The delay will only be compensated when you sit straight inline... TV-BL8000-Bl19. If you sit in different locations not inline you will hear the delay. Are you sure, that the powerlink socket is a output for other speakers and not input? It is no good idea to mix analog speakers with DSP driven digital speakers, there is always this disturbing delay. Playing with the runtime of the signal is only suitable for one (small) position in the room where it sounds right. All other positions notice the difference in runtime ... distance and DSP runtime. Why not using a quite normal analog bass?
Die_Bogener, thanks for pointing this out. You are correct, Beolab 19 only has one powerlink input. I must have confused it with Beolab 11 subwoofer. Thank you for also pointing out the issue with mixing analog and DSP speakers. Do you have any suggestions for an analog bass?
This may not matter if the 8000s have no significant output at those frequencies anyway, to phase-cancel. Just use
I've read that Beolab 2 is a great subwoofer for movies but not music. I'm sort of inclining towards the Beolab 11 now. Less powerful than 2 and 19 but should be enough to compensate the lack of bass on 8000s.
For music you dont need more than 2 good speakers. Any speaker more makes it worse. Music and something like Dolby 5.1 is not working. It sounds great some hours and then you notice: there is something wrong. Even if it was recorded in Dolby, you will hear the difference, it just takes some time ... and then you will sell it or scrap it. For TV it doesn't care, there is no music, just noise... bumbumrattatatabigbadabooom
@ Die Bogener I certainly do not agree! One speaker should be enough ? MM

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