Location: Paris France
Beolab 8000 preventive care.
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Hi Guys,
UPDATE: the foam in my pictures are not set correctly, good way to install them is as in the drawing below, in the center of the speaker, around the woofers.
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Unless necessary I will not remove the pictures to keep the process documented BUT REMEMBER THE FOAMS ARE INCORRECTLY SET.
Apologies.
This Beosystem 72-22 thing did grew up into my mind to the point I got a pair of 8000 to make my own one.
The recent old forum being still unavailable I would like to know if ALL BL8000 are prone to foam rot or if like the 4000 the did change the foam for a better one that do not disintegrate at a certain point? Mine are 12xxxx so 1997 I believe.
Then is there something you can do appart from changing the foam, I was thinking to insert a fine shit of plastic or whatever cut ti the shape to avoid acid dripping on the electronics.
I know the way to go may be changing the foam but right know I dont feel like opening the speakers.
Thank you for your advices.
Hi Matador,
Foam rot is a serious thing as it can damage the pcb and electronics, causing malfunction, etc.
I am not completely sure about which serial number has the improved foam, but I think 12xx xxxx might still have the old foam.
My advise for proper action is not to apply self cut pieces of plastic. This will not help, because when foam rot is there, it is already damaging the pcb and components. The only way is removing the old foam and thoroughly cleaning the pcb and components.
Location: The Netherlands
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Thank you for the comprehensive answer. Obviously note the one I was wishing the most!
I'm good to open them and what I fear is the glue the seems to hold the front panels.
I'll do it as soon as I get or make new foam. In the meantime do you know if not using them will slow down the process (less heat) or as this nothing to do?
Location: Paris France
Don't worry about de-attaching the front panels and the glue strips holding them.
Obviously, you will first have to remove all screws. After that, the glue strips will hold the speaker driver panel and the PSU/AMP panel in place. The glue strips function as gaskets.
Nevertheless you can push a flat hand screw driver (actually & literally with a flat head), just underneath the panel, and push it up a bit. Do it slow, and as soon as it comes a Biot loose, move the flat head down a few centimeters, and so on.
"In the meantime do you know if not using them will slow down the process (less heat) or as this nothing to do?"
The heat inside the cabinet makes the foam deform. As Long as you do not use them, the process will of foam rot will not continue. Be aware though that the damage might already have been done. Some times, some of the copper tracks on the PSU PCB are eaten away. And sometimes that's even hard to see with the eye. But this is easy to solve with some by-pass wires.
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Perfect, all I wanted to know.
Thank you Kolfmaker.
I Will update the forum when I'll do it.
Location: Paris France
Bought today two set of B&O white replacement foams: 10€ each.
Even for a raddish like me it do not worth spendind time for DIY'ing an alternative solution.
I will document the replacement operation here.
PS: at least here in Paris, the most complicated step was to find a dealer selling spare parts. Most of the dealers don't do after sales and can't order parts references.
Location: Paris France
Matador, there is a series of YouTube videos that details the process of opening up the BL8000s. It’s a good series — I used it myself to open both of my 8000s a year or so ago.
The series was created by Pyramid Audio in Austin, Texas. Let me know if you can’t find it, and I”ll dig for it.
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Found it, Thanks BeoFrederic, it will help.
Location: Paris France
Hi Guys, It's done, at least for one speaker.
The other one will wait a bit since this is not a really pleasant experience.
That will also allow me to compare Both speaker with new and old foam.
Starting point: the Beolab with stand and fret off and obviously the new set of damping material.
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Then take out the screws off: 6 for the amplifier plate, 12 for the speaker plate. All the same.
You need to cut the rubber border use to damp the fret between the two front plates. Use a sharp knife.
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The plates are still firmly glued to the pipe. Insert a flat screwdriver and gently pry off the plate. Then progress to the bottom. I used two very useful little tools Thant came with a garden tinsel from a Scandinavian well known brand to open up the two plates, one side after the other.
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Disconnect all that should be:
- One big socket between speaker plate and amplifier plate. (white/blue/red).
- One big socket (main power/Yellow) between the amplifier board and the cone.
- Two little connectors between the amplifier board and the cone (3 and 4 wires).
- Just above the cone.
- One the amp board, between the actual amplifier chip and the main board.
- In the gap between the speaker zone and the amplifier zone.
- One big piece in the speaker tube.
- One plug between amplifier plate and speaker plate.
- 3 or 4 plugs between amplifier plate and cone.
Location: Paris France
Thank you very much for the detailed guide and photos!
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