A.Aux Link, Masterlink and Network Link - 3 B&O generations together?

CharlieWednesday

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Posted April 11, 2025 at 20:35 GMT ? Edited April 12, 2025 at 06:32 GMT

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I originally started this conversation

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Madskp

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Posted April 12, 2025 at 08:19 GMT

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I guess it comes down to the number of available sources in a Masterlink setup, and the workarounds we tried in that other thread is not enough to overcome this fact. One extra possible workaround that comes to mind is if the Moment can be set to something like Option 4 where it only responds to Link + commands. I do not know if that is even a thing since it is a NL product. But if that works you could use it through the Tape 2 input without double commands. I know other members have taken the more equipment heavy route with seperate NL/ML converters for each ML source. An example of this is this post where user Tignum has a drawing of his system with several NL/ML converters

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CharlieWednesday

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Posted April 13, 2025 at 14:15 GMT

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Thanks - I have looked at other threads already and done so again today but other than having more than one NL/ML Converter (and I don't want to go to that amount of trouble), I don't think there's a solution. I've tried every setting in the NL/ML converter and I've tried every setting in the Moment, but I can't get full integration from any set of options. Either the Moment works through the speakers, or the Beocenter does, but never both. Having the Moment to the Tape 2 input of my Beocenter via an adapter cable seems to be the best option for me then. At least it works. One thing I've noticed from this set up though - when I select a source, or change the volume, or press any button really, I get series of between 1 and 3 short quiet buzz noises coming from the speakers. It seems to happen with any button press, whether by remote, or on the Beocenter panel itself. Probably caused by the 1611 converter as I never got that before noise before I connected that, but I wonder if anyone knows the cause?

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Madskp

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Posted April 13, 2025 at 20:28 GMT

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carolpa

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Posted April 14, 2025 at 14:40 GMT

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CharlieWednesday

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Posted April 15, 2025 at 20:19 GMT

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I don't believe the Moment has and Option 0. Indeed, as the Moment in NL rather than ML, it doesn't really have 'options' at all. In don't plan to get another Beolink Converter so I think I'll leave it as it is. It works, even if I can't control the Moment by RC. I diod notice something about the bussing noise in the speakers though - if I play a CD, I get a single buzz noise as the track moves on to the next track. The display in my Biolab Pentas will update to show the track number, so I'm guessing the buzz is related to the display data.
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carolpa

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Posted April 16, 2025 at 05:12 GMT

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you´re right, stupid thinking from this side. But doesn´t the Moment have a way to stop accepting IR commands? it is sometime ago, but my Moment was standing in a room with several other devices, and it didn´t response to IR commands, whereas the BL35 was.

CharlieWednesday

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Posted April 16, 2025 at 08:15 GMT

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Somehow, and I have no idea how, the Moment has stopped responding to IR commands. I have no idea why, I must have changed a setting without realising it, but that works for me so I'm not complaining! As for the buzzing noise in my Penta's when the display changes - I'm now 90% sure it's the 1611 Converter that is causing this. When I used my Beosound 4 instead of Beocenter 9500 (and therefore did not need toe 1611), I never got the buzzing noise. If I select a source on my Beovision 7 and change channel or volume etc, I don't get the buzzing noise. I only get the buzzing noise when an audio source is selected, so it's coming through thew BC9500 and the 1611 converter. I have my 1611 connected by both A.Aux able and Powerlink (Mk3) cable. I unplugged the Powerlink cable to test if that got rid of the buzzing, but it didn't. It'll take some effort because my cables are all routed and hidden, but I'll try and switch out some of the cables between the 9500, the 1611 and the Pentas, in case one of them has a fault. It's also possible I suppose that my 1611 has a fault.
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Madskp

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Posted April 16, 2025 at 14:33 GMT

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Location: Denmark

CharlieWednesday

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Posted April 19, 2025 at 12:06 GMT

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Well remembered - I did have a 1614 but don't have it any longer - I gave it to a friend as I no longer needed it. I've been experimenting for a few days, disconnecting and reconnecting cables, and finally I solved it! The problem was with the A.Aux cable that was connecting the BC9500 to the 1611. I had another A.Aux cable which I use along with a BL Passive to drive my BV Cona subwoofer, so I swapped those two A.Aux cables, and I no longer get the buzzing feedback whenever the display updates on my Pentas. Luckily, whatever the problem was with the particular A.Aux cable, it does not seem to cause any issues driving the BC Cona via the BL Passive. I have found however that the digital coax audio inputs on my old BV7 don't seem to work - I have a HDMI matrix with a coax audio splitter and I know that works, but I don't get any digital sound going into the BV7. I am therefore not getting full surround sound with my full set of surround speakers! I've tried every setting but I get nothing - the digital coax inputs on my old BV7 must not be working (I've tried all 4). I used to have a Beosystem 3 and wish I'd kept it now - I use a projector for gaming and movies in this room, so I might as well get rid of the BV7 and find another Beosystem 3 (Mk2 or Mk3). At least that has direct HDMI inputs (without the need for DVI cables and splitters), and a lot more sound customisation options for the speakers.
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