Harmony MKII - is it due?

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Hello all,   With the Theatre being such a big step up (and successful now already), I’m wondering if and when there will be a new mk2 soundcenter for the Harmony with the same technology (bass management) and sound capacity as the Theatre?  
I think it would be a popular upgrade ! Sign me in ;-)
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not sure what sound capacity precisely means, but they surely cant add up and side firing speakers to the existing Harmony design. I can see the Harmony perhaps being updated to process Atmos etc, and perhaps Mozart. But I wouldn't expect anything more than that. Just my opinion though.
I doubt Harmony will get such a deep upgrade in the future. My feeling is that Beovisions are over and Theater is the way found by B&O to externalize all concerns about video processing in a technology which moves too fast for their industrial and financial capabilities. I'm not happy with that but it's a sensible move. Regards, Yann.

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I can see all Beovisions above 55in EoL soon because of the Theatre. Harmony is a very complex TV setup, the Eclipse with motorised stand slightly less so but rationalising to a single Beosound would save a significant operating cost I would assume? I could also imagine the Stage going EoL in its current form with a new mini Theatre taking its place in the 48 to 55in range. Simplified and cheapened (no powerlink) but with similar mounting options. All speculation on my part.
The most interesting would be the speakers Phase integration to improve bass management and perhaps an hardware upgrade for Atmos processing … of course we’re not talking about adding upfiring speakers to Harmony ?
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The Harmony is big money - all in the motorised stand and it does not have Atmos (I think it is limited to 7.1?) Apart from the showmanship of the speakers, the Theatre is a more capable product. I can’t see Atmos coming to Harmony but if the did, you would almost have to stump up or re-task surrounds……again, boosting the overall price point.
My feeling is that an upgrade for the Harmony is not so complex as stated here. There is plenty of room in the wings to add upfiring speakers. Only challenge could be the woofers, they can be positioned in the current place and with making the back a bit deeper it can accommodate bigger speakers. The Admos processing, Mozart etc is just a mainboard thing and way more space available in it then theatre. So imo it should be rather simple to make a theatre comparable harmony mk2. I would only be needed to replace the sound center, re use my speaker grills, TV and motorized stand. The Harmony then stays above the Theatre again in the portfolio, with the moving wings it adds the B&O magic. Now the Harmony is way too expensive and is in no ways better then a Theatre.
Just adding to my comments above. The real game changer for me with the Theatre (and why I'm smitten with it) is that from BV7-55 to Avant 65 to Eclipse 65, B&O was costing me probably a clear £2 to 2.5K per year in Beovision ownership. That is big cheddar. That is for technological issues, screen burn-ins, DVDs, ML then NL/ML then NL, now Mozart and the interconnectivity of everything else (speakers, sources etc...). Replacing the G2 screen - assuming all else stays the same every 5yrs cuts that cost to less than £400/year. The Harmony is not going to be a cheap TV (even though the screen panel can be easily replaced) to make and sell.  Sure, there is £2-6k in LG C2/G2 panel but then another £15/17/40k in motorised mount depending on chosen screen. There may be a lot more margin for B&O in selling big-screen Harmony's but I'd wager that there are 20 - 30 -50 Theatres leaving Struer right now for every Harmony built? Like Beoplay....volumes count.  
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