Hi all Link-system gurus. I have a question to which I hope you can help me find an answer to.
Consider a NL-system wiht a few newer Beosounds connected to a Masterlink network (through NL/ML converter) system. I would like to connect a Beogram 9500 to this network but I also want to be able to control the Beogram remotely (through a Beoremote Halo).
I know from previous advice I've received in this forum that it is possible if connect the Beogram to a Beomaster with Datalink and then connect the Beomaster to the Masterlink network, using a Beolink converter (type 1611).
What I wonder is if the Beolink converter can manage to convert Datalink signals from Beomaster to Masterlink signals, shouldn't it also be able to convert Datalink signals from the Beogram to Masterlink, without the Beogram being connected to a Beomaster? I understand that the ML-network require an audio master but since the whole network is connected to the Network-link and there are several audio sources in the NL-network, will the existence of an audio master, be necessary?
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Beogram control over masterlink has been raised several times in the archived forum. Unfortunately I don't think anyone got it to work as required!
This thread is worth a read if you use Google translate: 
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https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/11690/102249.aspx#102249 You may be able to use a workaround to get sound distributed, but full control does not seem to be possible. It is possible, but not to my knowledge on the proposed way: for example, Beosystem 7000 (Beomaster 7000 option 0) datalink connected to a Beolink converter T1611, which is ML connected to a Beolink converter NL/ML (BLC; set as ASlave). Set the Beosystem 7000 sources "available" on the NL side. Solution 1: use of Beolink Intelligence: ALL the Beosystem 7000 sources are available (as part of the BLC sources) and programable to all NL & Beocontrol Link products. Solution 2: No Beolink Intelligence. If a NL device like a Core, A6, BS35, M3, M5,.... is available in the system set-up the BLC as "linked to other Products" as primary Beolink-product (note: you have to check the boxes of the BLC sources in the "local sources list" also). In both cases the Halo and the apps Beoliving or/and B&o app can be used. There are/were some weird workarounds: for example, one started the Beogram 7000 as source of a Core: when expanding to multiroom, one first had to switch to BLC in the B&o app before expanding the experience (note: lately the way of using a BLC in the B&o app has improved though) .
Many thanks, Guy and Carolpa for your responses, which are highly appreciated. I will give solution 2 a try as I don't own a Beomaster yet.
If I'm reading your response correctly, the second solution allows for the connection of a Beogram, directly to the ML-network (using a BL-converter), without needing a Beomaster 6500 or 7000.
It would still be good to understnad the difference in link signal between the signal from Beogrma to BL-converter to ML in one hand and Beogram to Beomaster to BL-converter to ML Will the signals be different?
In order to look at other options, can you tell us what other B&O equipment (and with what connections) will be in the same room as your Beogram? Also, have you thought about RIAA amplification? If connecting to a datalink-capable Beomaster/Beosound (or even 1611 converter) without an RIAA stage you will have to ensure that the datalink connections bypass your chosen pre-amp.Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Thanks Guy, for offering your help. Please see the below schematic for the planned B&O network. My idea was that since I'm not planning to use IRremote (but an NL-connected Halo remote), I might not need the Beomaster. It is a big chunky box that takes up space, and I don't need it; above all, it is old and can die anytime. Also, I thought I wouldn't need an Audiomaster as the integrated network is an NL network, which theoretically doesn't necessitate an Audiomaster like ML. However, from what Carolpa wrote, it seems like the NL network will be the passive one, so I will need an audio master after all (or at least that is what I understand). I would, however, be happy if I could ditch the Beomaster, as long as I can remotely control the Beogram. Login to view imageGreat diagram - very clear! I do think that you will have to use a Beomaster in order to then adopt one of Carolpa's options. However, some observations:
- If you decide to use a BM7000, be aware that not all (not many?) are fitted with RIAA amplifiers which will be required for your BG9500.
- You could get rid of the BL1611 by using an audiomaster such as Beosound Ouverture, which as far as I know is the only Beomaster with both ML and datalink. However, you would still need an RIAA stage.
- In order to solve the RIAA requirement whilst still using datalink you could look for (or build) something like this (I am not sure if Iconic AV are still in business):
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Further to the above, Iconic-AV do indeed still exist (based near me!) and also have a number of items listed on eBay here:Location: Warwickshire, UK
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