Woofer driver vibration problem ?

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Issue When playing music there seems something wrong with the representation of bass by the two drivers for mid and bass. When it happens, the vibration sounds like there is something loose or damaged in the driver (foam ring, cone, dust cap). The vibration does not occur at low(est) volumes, but it starts to be hearable at medium volumes (and gets awful at higher volumes). These BeoLab 8000’s have serial numbers in the 1072 xxxx. These speakers had foam rot which has now been removed. All PCBs have been cleaned thoroughly. I have installed 1 bypass in the power supply section towards the relay. There was also quite a bit of foam rot sticking to the head side of PCB02 and PCB04. This has also been cleaned. I have not found any damaged copper traces (I hope I did not miss that). One speaker was free of vibrations for a while, after everything been cleaned and PCB04 had been placed back after cleaning. But the vibrations were there again the next day. Music (with bass) tested:
  1. Vail Johnson – Bass solo (): Immediately from the beginning of the song, the vibration can clearly be heard. The vibration follows the kick drum instrument. NOT OK
  2. Bass test 20 Hz ( Question First I thought it’s the woofer drivers of BeoLab set 1 that caused the problem. Cause if they perform bad in a ‘bad’ BeoLab 1 set, but also in a ‘good’ BeoLab 2 set, it could be damage somewhere to the driver. But I was surprised to find that the ‘good’ woofer drivers from the ‘good’ BeoLab 2 set, performed bad in the ‘bad’ BeoLab set 1.
    1. A bit confusing now, because is this problem a combination of bad woofer drivers with a problem on the amplifier/cross-over filter side?
    2. So, what could be wrong here and what should I check?
    Any advice is welcome!   Attached:
    • Pictures of the ‘bad’ drivers from BeoLab set 1, after I removed them from the panel to have a visual check.
       

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Hi Did you  replace the foam and gaskets? Could be airventilation caused by gaps between the amp module speaker module or top module with pipe. May be that a PCB is ratteling  because of a missing screw or a broken screwpost. Often the screwpost break while tightening the boards or handling, or screw isn't fully tightened. Why the ratteling sometimes is audible and sometimes not is quite a mystery. did you crosscheck the"bad" woofers in the"good" speaker set? For me it's a bit confusing how you did the test ;-)) If you push gently the bad woofers is there any scratchy feeling? Try to test the woofers out of the speaker with reduced volume and listen to the bad ones and good ones > any difference? Good luck Christian  
Thanks for your input Christian! Interesting remarks you made. Especially the air ventilation triggered me. So I now changed two things since last time:
  • I cleaned away every tiny bit of the left glue of the old gasket. To make sure the whole surface is smooth and straight.
  • I placed brand new foam (original B&O, placement according to B&O instruction).
Result: Happy that I can say that the bad vibrations are gone. Just one remark about that. I have played a list of songs with a bit more heavy and low bass tones. All play well, but only one song keeps disturbing me a bit:

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